CB: We know that sometimes you struggle in Baltimore with getting drummers. Many dance classes are also facing this problem. What do you think is causing the shortage?

BN: We don't really have a shortage of drummers. Just look at DC there are plenty of drummers there, but now we don't have a generation of drummers who are learning and play because each time they are learning and improving. Now our drummers won't play unless they get paid money. So, they don't want to drum for class. But if there is a show where money is available they want you to hire them for that. But being paid for the show is the reward for helping and playing for class. They don't see it that way though. If you can't pay them, they won't come. We need some young dancers and drummers now. Our community is full of the old regulars who continue to fight with each other and even they are dropping out.

CB: So what things are you involved in now?

BN: I'm teaching in this program called New World. It's for children whose parents are on drugs. It's a program for their kids. They do plays and dance and they love it. Then in June, I'm going to Chicago to work with Muntu. I'll be doing some choreography for them. That is going to be fun.

CB: We've already talked about some of the problems you see in the community, so let's bring our talk to an end on a positive note, what do you love about the culture?

BN: I love dancing. I was born a dancer. I will dance anywhere, with anyone. Everything comes after that. I will always dance for myself, because I love it. I can do it with just one drummer. If you love something, you have to do it for yourself, no matter what any one else is doing. We don't know what future is going to come. But, if we work on stopping the negative, we can make whatever the future is better.

CB: Wise words to end with. Thank you so much Babacar.